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and at the center of the action was grover norquist. norquist had created americans for tax reform, which he turned into the movement's nerve center. once a week, congressional staff, party activists, and rightwing think tankers held strategy sessions in his office. it was norquist who concocted a grand scheme to turn washington into a republican company town by making sure only republicans were hired as lobbyists and lobbyists contributed only to republicans. he dubbed it the k street project, after the lobbyists' main drag downtown. it paved the way for jack abramoff. >> what the republicans need, said norquist, is 50 jack abramoff's. then this becomes a different town. >> they were probably about as inseparable as two political people can get. jack had left washington. he didn't have the day-to-day contact with his networks. so if grover vouched for him, then abramoff was fine. >> abramoff had gone home to los angeles, but returned to washington to work for a prominent firm, which announced his hiring by touting the lobbyist's ties t
and at the center of the action was grover norquist. norquist had created americans for tax reform, which he turned into the movement's nerve center. once a week, congressional staff, party activists, and rightwing think tankers held strategy sessions in his office. it was norquist who concocted a grand scheme to turn washington into a republican company town by making sure only republicans were hired as lobbyists and lobbyists contributed only to republicans. he dubbed it the k street project,...
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one is to grover norquist. one is to the constitution of the united states. which one am i going to honor?" and that's the choice they have to make. and you have to be honest about the conversation. because on the tax raising side of it, you know, the argument is, "we're going to tax the multimillionaires." but actually, the proposal is $250,000. it's not millionaires and it's not multimillionaires. and so, there's dishonesty coming from both sides and both sides digging in their heels and saying, you know, "we're just not going to budge." and you can't operate that way. that's why i say they should act as americans, not republicans and democrats. this is not about fixing the problems of the country. it's about the elections of 2014. >> let me play for you an interview that norquist did with politico's mike allen. >> this president is not going to extend. he knows that he loses his leverage that way. >> okay, well, the republicans also have other leverage: continuing resolutions on spending and the debt ceiling increase. they can give him debt ceiling increas
one is to grover norquist. one is to the constitution of the united states. which one am i going to honor?" and that's the choice they have to make. and you have to be honest about the conversation. because on the tax raising side of it, you know, the argument is, "we're going to tax the multimillionaires." but actually, the proposal is $250,000. it's not millionaires and it's not multimillionaires. and so, there's dishonesty coming from both sides and both sides digging in their...
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grover norquist is a conservative lobbyist and the president of americans for tax reform. most famously, he's known for getting many elected republicans to sign a pledge to not raise taxes. but now some lawmakers are suggesting they may be willing to change their position. grover norquist, welcome to the program. >> good to be with you. >> woodruff: in fact, there are a growing number of republicans who are saying either they've renounced that pledge or they may be prepared to renounce it in order to deal with the serious fiscal problem facing the country. >> well, interestingly, the problem we have is too much spending. and so the only solution to spending too much is spending less. we don't have a problem of not enough in terms of tax revenue coming in. the problem is government sp-pbdz too much. so raising taxes is what politicians do instead of reducing spending. that's the argument boehner's having with the president of the united states. the president wants higher taxes, boehner would like less spending. >> woodruff: well, i'm sure you know, a number of economists ta
grover norquist is a conservative lobbyist and the president of americans for tax reform. most famously, he's known for getting many elected republicans to sign a pledge to not raise taxes. but now some lawmakers are suggesting they may be willing to change their position. grover norquist, welcome to the program. >> good to be with you. >> woodruff: in fact, there are a growing number of republicans who are saying either they've renounced that pledge or they may be prepared to...
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grover norquist heads up americans for tax reform. he's is known in washington as a powerful force in the republican party and a strong voice against tax increases. darren gersh sat down with him today and began by asking whether republicans will accept higher tax rates to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> well, one thing to look at is what happened two years ago, when you had the exact same situation. two years ago, you had a republican congress coming in, the democratic senate and the democratic president. that's exactly what you have today. two years ago, obama looked at the economy and said the economy is so bad, we should extend all of the tax rates and have not a tax increase. the economy is not any better than two years ago. one of the resting places might be to extend it out six months, a year, two years, four years, and focus on other things because there is not an agreement here. >> but republicans and speakers have already put tax revenue on the table. does that make the pledge not to raise taxes now meaningless? >> what he said w
grover norquist heads up americans for tax reform. he's is known in washington as a powerful force in the republican party and a strong voice against tax increases. darren gersh sat down with him today and began by asking whether republicans will accept higher tax rates to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> well, one thing to look at is what happened two years ago, when you had the exact same situation. two years ago, you had a republican congress coming in, the democratic senate and the...
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it was by the anti-tax ideologue grover norquist. listen to this excerpt. >> we are not auditioning for fearless leader. we don't need a president to tell us what direction to go -- we just need a president to sign this stuff. we don't need someone to think it up or design it. we have a house and a senate. the leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the house and the senate so focus on electing the most conservative republican who can win in each house seat, and the most conservative republican who can win in each senate seat. and then pick a republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the united states. >> now, what grover norquist is saying is that it doesn't really matter who the president is. we, the conservatives, the party, being elected in all of these house and senate races will tell the president what to do and all he needs to do is to sign the legislation we pass. is it conceivable to you that they don't want anyone with a vision or cap
it was by the anti-tax ideologue grover norquist. listen to this excerpt. >> we are not auditioning for fearless leader. we don't need a president to tell us what direction to go -- we just need a president to sign this stuff. we don't need someone to think it up or design it. we have a house and a senate. the leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the house and the senate so focus on electing the most conservative republican who...
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i mean, would you want to be a republican running in a republican primary where grover norquist comes in and says, this guy must be defeated because he violated the pledge? or he refused to sign the pledge? members of the tea party don't know anything else. that guy's history. we saw during the 2010 campaign these tea party people are capable and perfectly willing to defeat incumbent republicans even at the cost of having that seat go to the democrats. you saw guys like robert bennett in utah who is no liberal by any means. >> the epitome of the conservative stalwart. >> he wasn't conservative enough. so they tossed him out. republicans lost seats in places like colorado and delaware where the tea party people were so insi insistent that these rhino republicans, that stands for republican in name only -- there is nothing worse you can be called, but there are other groups, as well. the club for growth has been extraordinarily important. they ensure that there will always be unlimited financing available to anybody who runs against a rhino, against a tax pledge breaker who are somebody
i mean, would you want to be a republican running in a republican primary where grover norquist comes in and says, this guy must be defeated because he violated the pledge? or he refused to sign the pledge? members of the tea party don't know anything else. that guy's history. we saw during the 2010 campaign these tea party people are capable and perfectly willing to defeat incumbent republicans even at the cost of having that seat go to the democrats. you saw guys like robert bennett in utah...
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norquist. last november he sent a letter to republican leaders calling for congress to -- norquist in january said shrinking the pentagon meant that conservatives need to rethink our presence in afghanistan. >> >> question, next year's g.o.p. presidenti p mares, will defense spending be nds off a wedge issue@that divides the contendsers? >> i thk they're alrey divided. i think tim pawlenty is tang a super-hawk pro defense, we're not @@going to cut defense spending stance. other candidates, ronpaul, jon huntsman are for@shrinking the dget. it about 5%. at the ends of the clinton era it was 3. i think there's tremendo appetite in both parties to lower defense spendi. what will @@republicans offer t democrats in return for getting entitlement reform and they don't want raise@taxes. they might office defen cu. >> south carolina senator setor grahamcan't imagine a repuican running to the left of president @@obama on defense but i thk it's reall9 hard to see what is the emerging rldview ming from thi
norquist. last november he sent a letter to republican leaders calling for congress to -- norquist in january said shrinking the pentagon meant that conservatives need to rethink our presence in afghanistan. >> >> question, next year's g.o.p. presidenti p mares, will defense spending be nds off a wedge issue@that divides the contendsers? >> i thk they're alrey divided. i think tim pawlenty is tang a super-hawk pro defense, we're not @@going to cut defense spending stance....
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. >> grover norquist who crafted his no new taxes in the 80s. >> thomas freeman who harped on his envy for chinese style planning that it lost its ability to shock. >> what's left of the birther movement. >> most stagnant thinkers, the israelis and palestinians. hits and misses, commings and goings, highs and lows and in the end no solution to the 70- year-old conflict. most stagnant thinkers. okay. enough already award. >> warren buffett. my secretary pays a higher tax than i do. cut it out, warren. pay the woman some more money. >> go, warren, go. the republican debates and the kardashians. maybe they can all get together on the stage. >> rich? >> joe biden. his scott hartnell glorifycation are occasionally amusing but always tiresome. >> donald trump and sarah palin. >> enough whining about political partisanship. the nation's future is in political play. consensus is essential. we will not be able to chart a clear direction without it. it may take one or two election cycles for that consensus to build. until then we need argument. rational argument. enough of whining over argumentt
. >> grover norquist who crafted his no new taxes in the 80s. >> thomas freeman who harped on his envy for chinese style planning that it lost its ability to shock. >> what's left of the birther movement. >> most stagnant thinkers, the israelis and palestinians. hits and misses, commings and goings, highs and lows and in the end no solution to the 70- year-old conflict. most stagnant thinkers. okay. enough already award. >> warren buffett. my secretary pays a...
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now, grover norquist was brilliant in exploiting the psychology of sacredness in making them sign this pledge. even if many of them knew in their heart it was the wrong thing to do, we're so concerned about our poll numbers, we're so concerned about what people think of us, any candidate that said, "no, i'm not going to sign," you can bet norquist was going to hold his feet to the fire. and now they're stuck. and you get that crazy scene in that republican debate, "if you could work out a deal, $10 of spending cuts for every one dollar of tax increases, would you take it?" >> say you had a deal, a real spending cuts deal, 10 to 1 as byron said. spending cuts to tax increases. speaker you're already shaking your head. but who on this stage would walk away from that deal? can you raise your hand if you feel so strongly about not raising taxes you'd walk away on the 10 to one deal? >> it's straight out of all the conformity experiments in social psychology. it's -- you don't want to look, you don't want to be the one who stands up and is different. it's a lot of conformity pressure. a lit
now, grover norquist was brilliant in exploiting the psychology of sacredness in making them sign this pledge. even if many of them knew in their heart it was the wrong thing to do, we're so concerned about our poll numbers, we're so concerned about what people think of us, any candidate that said, "no, i'm not going to sign," you can bet norquist was going to hold his feet to the fire. and now they're stuck. and you get that crazy scene in that republican debate, "if you could...
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norquist. they're not going do sign on to a trillion dollars of new taxes some have this tremendous conflict here. there will be no get bargain. what we're going to get is, however, basically what boehner and obama and reid put together, and so you'll get marginal increases or cuts on various things. it's going to -- anger and enrage the tea party and republican party especially, if they go through revenue enhancement. on the other side you'll get a split in the democratic party because they're already screaming with the cuts that have been made, which have been insignificant some i think you'll get both parties divided. >> is there anything left for to you say now? >> that was such a workish examination of what is going on! two political figures have set down their markers, and they're going to provide the parameters for the debate that will take us into the next presidential election, and that is the role of government and how much responsibility the federal government is going to take to kee
norquist. they're not going do sign on to a trillion dollars of new taxes some have this tremendous conflict here. there will be no get bargain. what we're going to get is, however, basically what boehner and obama and reid put together, and so you'll get marginal increases or cuts on various things. it's going to -- anger and enrage the tea party and republican party especially, if they go through revenue enhancement. on the other side you'll get a split in the democratic party because they're...
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norquist, and pat toomey, who was former president of the club for growth and anti-tax guy who on the super committee, put forth a plan that volunteered $300 billion in increased tax revenues. and everybody said, ooh, he crossed some of the lines they wasn't supposed tom but if you look at the plan closely, he puts the 300 billion on the table, then he takes back more by reducing the top rate to 28%. and ought other deficit committees started out by elum nateing the bush tax cuts to the very rich. so we're back again to a fight over the bush tax cuts. >> is the problem a bipartisan problem? that is, it was created by the two parties. >> yes. >> yes. >> it's a bipartisan, is it not? >> yes. >> doesn't that tell you something from in the word go -- we are spendthrift. we have a spendthrift nation and congress. we can only blame ourselves. >> yes, but we're going to have our credit rating down gridded, and borrowing money will be a lot motion, pensionive. this is courting disaster if they don't come up with an agreement. >> we're heading for a day of reckoning, no doubt. i don't think it
norquist, and pat toomey, who was former president of the club for growth and anti-tax guy who on the super committee, put forth a plan that volunteered $300 billion in increased tax revenues. and everybody said, ooh, he crossed some of the lines they wasn't supposed tom but if you look at the plan closely, he puts the 300 billion on the table, then he takes back more by reducing the top rate to 28%. and ought other deficit committees started out by elum nateing the bush tax cuts to the very...
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remember grover norquist said he wanted to make government so small you could drown it in a bathtub. this government has disappeared. there's no government to drown in the bathtub because nothing is filled in the first place. it's very worrisome that there are so few people who can relate to trump. you have priebus chief of staff but doesn't have the power to stand up to the president. >> the president had a meeting with the freedom caucus before the vote and said you have no choice but to vote for this. i can see a bunch of white men offended by this one white guy telling them you have no choice but to vote for this and there was rebelling at the notion you would tell us we have no choice to tell us we have no choice but to vote for it and that's not how you get it pads. -- passed. they're in safe districts where obamacare is unpopular and they want to repeal the whole bill. they're not suffering backlash. the moderates who will vote against it they're in real trouble. they were going to cast a vote that would potentially imperil them. one part of the conversation lost was not just
remember grover norquist said he wanted to make government so small you could drown it in a bathtub. this government has disappeared. there's no government to drown in the bathtub because nothing is filled in the first place. it's very worrisome that there are so few people who can relate to trump. you have priebus chief of staff but doesn't have the power to stand up to the president. >> the president had a meeting with the freedom caucus before the vote and said you have no choice but...
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grover norquist has given a pass on some tax revenue hikes, and so there's suddenly more negotiating room on the revenue side, and the democrats are now going to start squawking, but that's the way the deals unfold. i think if after all this they produce a mouse it will be a total embarrassment for everyone. already a lot of damage has been done. the confidence in government in this country and around the world. >> let me get this in. okay, invoking reagan obama, please, give me a break! >> raising the debt ceiling has invoked the memory of the 40th president of the united states, ronald wilson reagan. president reagan raised the debt ceiling during his two- term presidency 17 times. here's an example. in 1987, how ronald reagan badgered a democratic congress, both chambers, senate and house, democratic, into raising the debt ceiling. president reagan then scolded the 87th congress. >> congress consistently brings the government to the edge of default before facing its responsibility. this brinksmanship threatens the holders of government bonds and those who rely on social security a
grover norquist has given a pass on some tax revenue hikes, and so there's suddenly more negotiating room on the revenue side, and the democrats are now going to start squawking, but that's the way the deals unfold. i think if after all this they produce a mouse it will be a total embarrassment for everyone. already a lot of damage has been done. the confidence in government in this country and around the world. >> let me get this in. okay, invoking reagan obama, please, give me a break!...
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or is it because almost every one of them-- over 270-- signed the grover norquist pledge that they would never raise taxes under any circumstances? in a sense, it's a trivial example. closing that loophole would have virtually no effect at all on our long-term deficit. but in another sense, it's the crux of the matter. fierce partisanship is one thing, and it's clearly part of the american political landscape. we have profound differences and a political system that allows those differences to be both heard and embodied in our policies. but at the end of the day, our history shows that partisans compromise in the interest of preserving the common good. those who refuse to do so have no place in this debate. they are not legislators, working with their opponents to hammer out the best deal for both their constituents and the nation. they're pledge-takers who are threatening to abandon the common good for narrow self- interest. and that must not stand. i'm jared bernstein. >> tom: jared won't have the last word on the debt debate. in the coming days and weeks, we'll continue to bring you t
or is it because almost every one of them-- over 270-- signed the grover norquist pledge that they would never raise taxes under any circumstances? in a sense, it's a trivial example. closing that loophole would have virtually no effect at all on our long-term deficit. but in another sense, it's the crux of the matter. fierce partisanship is one thing, and it's clearly part of the american political landscape. we have profound differences and a political system that allows those differences to...
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even folks on the right, rick perry, grover norquist and other interesting folks out front on this, george schultz for years and years, william f. buckley in his day, william freeman talking about moving in a different direction. most people would acknowledge the idea that the federal government has in their controlled substances act marijuana sitting side by side with heroin and lsd and above in terms of its potency and problems, above methamphetamine and cocaine, that's absurd and it's time we become more mature on this topic, have courage of our convictions, try to bring people that are concerned, parents, on to a conversation or on board a conversation where we can work through the black market concerns, work through the legitimate cultivation concerns, the issue of edibles, which are real concerns i have, particularly as a parent, and how we do this in a thoughtful and judicious way. >> quickly, when will the task force finish its report? >> we've been together for about a year and have a series of subcommittees and hope by the end of this year we're going to have a report that will b
even folks on the right, rick perry, grover norquist and other interesting folks out front on this, george schultz for years and years, william f. buckley in his day, william freeman talking about moving in a different direction. most people would acknowledge the idea that the federal government has in their controlled substances act marijuana sitting side by side with heroin and lsd and above in terms of its potency and problems, above methamphetamine and cocaine, that's absurd and it's time...
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let's sober up.cut as everybody is terrified of aarp and grover norquist of the taxpayers, tax reform guy, you'll never get anywhere. the guys to get hurt the worst are the little guys. tavis: about the notions of their having to be a connection, as many in gop are due to come up between deficit-reduction and raising the debt sc eiling? is that a quid pro quo? >> it is not to me. it is to them. i came here to cut the government, a lot of these guys said. spending cuts alone will not get there. and tax increases will not get you there. anybody with half the board on their shoulders can tell you this. and that is why the gang of six is so important. they are going to say, you're going to have to do a little of everything. if he cannot do that, then, as i say, we are not greece or ireland or spain, but we are a global society, and a global unification, and everything we do is dependent upon the world. the money is fungible. everything. and i am just saying, do not do anything -- do not do a thing. just a freeze in place. these new guys say, i will not vote to extend the debt limit until
let's sober up.cut as everybody is terrified of aarp and grover norquist of the taxpayers, tax reform guy, you'll never get anywhere. the guys to get hurt the worst are the little guys. tavis: about the notions of their having to be a connection, as many in gop are due to come up between deficit-reduction and raising the debt sc eiling? is that a quid pro quo? >> it is not to me. it is to them. i came here to cut the government, a lot of these guys said. spending cuts alone will not get...
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. >> you're not seeing the same grover norquist taxpayer protection pledge ideology set in over the payroll tax cut the way you have for the bush-era tax cuts. >> reporter: fieldhouse would prefer to stimulate the economy with more infrastructure spending, but he says extending the payroll tax cut is the only option on the table now. >> right now you are talking about infusing about $120 billion of disposable income into the u.s. economy. you're not always going to want to do that. right now, in the context of massive underemployment, i think that makes sense. >> reporter: the odds of a payroll tax cut extension next year are looking good now. whether it continues beyond that will depend on the economy and the outcome of the next presidential election. darren gersh, "nightly business report," washington. >> susie: the missing money still can't be located at m.f. global, but many customers of the bankrupt firm will soon be getting some of their money back. the judge overseeing the firm's bankruptcy today approved the return of $2.2 billion to clients. the move comes one day after former c.e.
. >> you're not seeing the same grover norquist taxpayer protection pledge ideology set in over the payroll tax cut the way you have for the bush-era tax cuts. >> reporter: fieldhouse would prefer to stimulate the economy with more infrastructure spending, but he says extending the payroll tax cut is the only option on the table now. >> right now you are talking about infusing about $120 billion of disposable income into the u.s. economy. you're not always going to want to do...
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so i am concerned that the government that i think grover norquist once said he wants to drown in the bath. if you drown your government in the bath in the modern world, we don't live in the early 19th century, it's a different world, that the long term health of the united states will be very badly affected. it's strange to me that a government which has obviously achieved very important things, think of the role of the defense department in the internet, has achieved such important things, that's just one of many examples, it should be now regarded as nothing more than a complete nuisance. and the only thing you need to do is to cut it back to nothing. and it does seem to me that the democrats have, for reasons i don't fully understand, basically given up on making this argument. and so in a way the conservatives, the extreme conservative position has won, because nobody is actually combating it. so it's only a question of how much you cut and how you cut it rather than, "well, what do we want government for? what are the good things about it? what are the bad things about it? how d
so i am concerned that the government that i think grover norquist once said he wants to drown in the bath. if you drown your government in the bath in the modern world, we don't live in the early 19th century, it's a different world, that the long term health of the united states will be very badly affected. it's strange to me that a government which has obviously achieved very important things, think of the role of the defense department in the internet, has achieved such important things,...
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norquist, americans for tax reform which obviously writes the taxpayer protection pledge sfor it. the chamber of commerce is for it. so it's split republicans very much phenomenon two camps and that puts a lot of pressure on speaker boehner. >> brown: in the meantime, the president and the democrats, what, wait? >> well, they wait. there's another risk in all of this which is that you've got liberal democrats growing increasingly antsy believing president obama has already moved too far for them, bringing social security into the mix which they had been told would not be brought in and if, as jay carney said, he's ready to move a little more they're saying "you've got the upper hand here. they're divided, the american people believe it's the republicans who are the obstructionists. if we do over go over the cliff on january 1, all those taxes go up and then you can negotiate from there so it's a little tricky for him to move even a little bit more to make this deal before the end of the year as well. and we're going to see if the senate responds in any way to this other than simpl
norquist, americans for tax reform which obviously writes the taxpayer protection pledge sfor it. the chamber of commerce is for it. so it's split republicans very much phenomenon two camps and that puts a lot of pressure on speaker boehner. >> brown: in the meantime, the president and the democrats, what, wait? >> well, they wait. there's another risk in all of this which is that you've got liberal democrats growing increasingly antsy believing president obama has already moved too...
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norquist and the koch brothers. and it all comes together to provide such overwhelming pressure on individual republicans to toe the line, to oppose even when they want to engage in problem solving. >> so when you mention the club for growth, you're talking about essentially wall street finance group of private citizens who will take on a republican in the primary to defeat him if he doesn't toe the line on what the financial interests want? >> and these are financial interests who don't just focus on financial interests. many of them are themselves radical either libertarians or who have a very strong ideology. and so the club for growth will intervene not just on tax issues, but on others. and they're joined by other groups. you know, when jim demint left the senate -- >> to head the heritage. >> head the heritage foundation, you know. >> right. a very conservative organization. >> which used to be a think tank. now, of course, it has a 501 (c)4 called heritage action. they're raising money. they're aggressively p
norquist and the koch brothers. and it all comes together to provide such overwhelming pressure on individual republicans to toe the line, to oppose even when they want to engage in problem solving. >> so when you mention the club for growth, you're talking about essentially wall street finance group of private citizens who will take on a republican in the primary to defeat him if he doesn't toe the line on what the financial interests want? >> and these are financial interests who...
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norquist. >> you so let him off the hook. and i don't know why you do that. i feel as though that's what the media's frame for dealing with the primaries is. "well, we all know that you have to appeal to the party's base in the primaries, and then you have to move to the center because that's just something that people have to do." why do we let people do that as though that dance was acceptable in democratic society. >> oh no, i don't think you have to move to the center. i'm only saying he chose to go that route in order --ecause he thought he could only get the nomination that way. >> but why didn't you hold him accountable, not for just realizing that he had to do it tactically, but that that is a really corrupt thing to do. inappropriate and disqualifying for leadership, as opposed to it's just what politicians have to be up to. isn't it sad, he's a nice guy. >> candidates do change position and the question is when is it consequential and when isn't it. and when does it become a behavioral pattern that means you can't d
norquist. >> you so let him off the hook. and i don't know why you do that. i feel as though that's what the media's frame for dealing with the primaries is. "well, we all know that you have to appeal to the party's base in the primaries, and then you have to move to the center because that's just something that people have to do." why do we let people do that as though that dance was acceptable in democratic society. >> oh no, i don't think you have to move to the center....
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and so they are back, they are going back to where grover norquist wants them to be because they are outraged because they feel they have been insulted is, that this is not a negotiation t a war. i think what had yesterday from the administration was a bit of negotiation incompetence because they pushed us, the psychological process the republicans were going through, which they have to go through has to be has been pushed way back. >> where do you think we are. >> i'm not quite clear as dire in my assessment as david. first of all, david is absolutely right. the president did not run on big ideas or grand agenda but he did relentlessly endlessly emphasize that he was committed to raising taxes and returning to the prebush tax cut rate of the clinton era. i think that we are in a little bit of a chest bumping stage. the process -- >> you call it chest bunch, he called it stick in the eyewitnesses i think what we're seeing, i think you see some republicans we're not going to do a thing, we're just going do it with closing exemptions or eliminates exemptions and that is what mitt romne
and so they are back, they are going back to where grover norquist wants them to be because they are outraged because they feel they have been insulted is, that this is not a negotiation t a war. i think what had yesterday from the administration was a bit of negotiation incompetence because they pushed us, the psychological process the republicans were going through, which they have to go through has to be has been pushed way back. >> where do you think we are. >> i'm not quite...
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. >> but you do have grover norquist, the antitax activist, who has been very active on twitter told me today he considers it a great organizing tool. he's been about 50 television shows in the past week but it's not the same as having a presidential candidate who has a big megaphone. >> brown: permanent social media campaign. just what we need. the the daily download, howard kurtz, lauren ashburn, thanks so much. >> thanks, jeff. >> warner: again, the major developments of the day: president obama said he believes a framework for a debt-cutting deal can be reached in the coming weeks, possibly before christmas. stocks rebounded on the hopeful talk in washington. the dow industrials gained more than 100 points. and the top appellate courts in egypt went on strike against president muhammad morsi's move to assume near-absolute power. morsi planned to address the egyptian people tomorrow. >> warner: online, we continue our series on social entrepreneurs with a profile of a woman who's breaking taboos. hari sreenivasan has more. >> sreenivasan: harvard business school graduate elizabeth
. >> but you do have grover norquist, the antitax activist, who has been very active on twitter told me today he considers it a great organizing tool. he's been about 50 television shows in the past week but it's not the same as having a presidential candidate who has a big megaphone. >> brown: permanent social media campaign. just what we need. the the daily download, howard kurtz, lauren ashburn, thanks so much. >> thanks, jeff. >> warner: again, the major developments...